You cannot accurately compare a .300wm to the .300PRC. Have not tried N570 but have on hand for 28 Nosler so may give it a run too. I still not see anything revolutionary in this caliber, just the new hype thing in ELR matches. BUT – if just starting into 6.5 cal, the creed has more factory options and current ground swell support …, Personally, while I do enjoy reloading some cartridges more than others, I love shooting all of them … until they thump me back harder than I want …, So – for all of us – let’s keep it both honest AND polite …, By the way – for those that are poo-pooing the 300PRC – google for the 300 Sherman Magnum … you can fire 300PRC in it and then have a 300PRC “Improved” afterwards with ballistics that WILL rival the norma without the safety concerns associated with unfilled case volume leading to higher pressures when fired on a large up or down angle … I WILL be taking off a 300 winmag barrel and replacing it with that …. It is not even listed on Hornady LE website. If you’re upset that we didn’t use the same weight, that doesn’t make much sense to us. The testing I conducted resulted in excellent results that make me a big fan of the cartridge. Has anyone found any published reloading data for the 300 PRC ? Also comparing to the availability at the time of loaded .338 Lapua ammo with 300gr bullets and even now there are not that many available. Thanks for the updates and info on the 300 PRC. The 700 magazine measures ~3.681”. This one is a bit different, as the goal with the .300 PRC is to be able to maintain case capacity while loading the sleek, long-ogive bullets. The 7mm shoots .284-inch diameter bullets through bores .28-inch across, but only two use this Imperial measuring system in their titles: .280 Remington and .284 Winchester, both excellent but under-rated “standard” velocity cartridges. 300 PRC - 90g-104g 30 Nosler - 85g-90g Brass quality I've never had a problem with either Hornady or Nosler brass. I’m having a 300 PRC built on a Stiller Predator action which is designed to accept the longer Wyatts mag box, I received my reamer, Hornady Brass and some Hornady 212 ELD-X ammo, now to pick up a barrel. The same bullets the graph is misleading. to choose between the 300 win mag. November 25, 2019. bolt face gives you more options in terms of building/making rifles. Yes recoil is more in the .338 Lapua and .338 Norma. Let me fix it. I dislike the case and the belt of the 300 wm and that’s what I was trying to find…. Too much overlap there so that idea got scrapped. According to inside sources at Hornady, one of their motivations for coming to market with the 300 PRC was to avoid the unsafe conditions presented by the 300 Norma when shooting at angles. Your email address will not be published. Hornady .300 PRC (left) and 30 Nosler 30 Nosler vs. Hornady .300 PRC. Read on to see our review of the 300 PRC cartridge and decide for yourself. $200 300 PRC load not translating-- -$750 Total: $950. As far as the RUM is concerned I have steered clear because every one I see running 215 Bergers is the same velocity or slower than the 30 Nosler. bullet out of the WM at 2900fps….not happening in a factory chamber with out the chamber pressure going crazy high. H2O to the top of the case mouth. It wasn’t the article for me. The .26 Nosler has right at 11 inches of drop and hits with 2,343 foot pounds of energy. Obviously. I have had three WMs(still have one). However, the amount of butt-hurt I get over displaying actual data is entertaining to me. I’m seriously looking at one in a Christensen Arms rifle in the future and I’m happy to see that the brass is very reasonably priced from $38-$50 per 50 ct. Ryan this was a great article. The other advantage of the 300 Norma is the ability to switch barrel with the 338lm if you wanted. This one is a bit different, as the goal with the .300 PRC is to be able to maintain case capacity while loading the sleek, long-ogive bullets. This is becuase it can shoot the same or similar bullet faster. I buy what I need and determine wether or not I want another after using it. Let’s compare the two, in order to gauge how the .300 PRC will stack up against the best-known .300 Magnum. Ryan is a former special operations sniper (1/75 Ranger) and current firearms attorney, firearms industry executive, university lecturer, and bestselling author of the Long Range Shooting Handbook. Using bullets from Swift Scirocco, Sierra Tipped MatchKing, Barnes LRX BT, Nosler E-Tip, Nosler AccBond Long Range, Swift A-Frame, Hornady ELD-X, Berger Tactical. Add to that the chamber’s maximum 0.315-inch throat diameter, and you’re adding the “hot dog down a hallway” effect that makes it hard to get the .308-inch bullet to enter the rifling at a consistent angle, as Quinlen explains it. Essentially, it is the next step up from the 6.5 Creedmoor in design and performance and it resolves issues with other similar cartridges without any of the negatives of the 300 Norma. Zermatt Arms RimX Rimfire Barrels $ 650.00 $ 399.99 We are proud to announce that we are now Custom machining rim fire barrels for Zermatt actions! I looked at the 28 Nosler but couldn't do it as there was too much overlap with my 300 Win Mag. What does that mean. I don’t shoot the .300Norma, or the .338 Lapua. I know it is an updated 270, but 7mm bullets are much better BC and can shoot up to 195 gr with the 28 vs 165 with the 27. Tomahawks Are Back: These American Relics Have Seen a Resurgence in Military and … 28 Nosler/300 PRC quantity. Build the perfect load has long been the motto of handloaders loyal to Nosler brand bullets–and was the sole reason we developed Nosler® cartridge brass. and achieves great performance of a new modern bullet design while balancing recoil and rifle size. Let me go back to the 6.5 Creedmoor example for a minute… The 6.5 Creedmoor effectively the same trajectory as the 300 Win Mag out to 1,200 yards. Again, it clearly outperforms the 300 PRC. Gun Parts - Stocks, Barrels, Actions, etc. Two excellent cartridges at their best would be fair when deciding if I need a New rifle, new dies and time to get everything right. Don’t like a caliber don’t shoot it. Having bought a 28 nosler a few months ago along with a 6.5 prc, I was reading the new hodgdon manual and read about the 27 nosler. It’s sad how so many people can get so emotionally distraught just because you didn’t use the exact ammunition or bullet that they think you should use. I just don’t think it’s worth the larger case/receiver needed. No votes so far! Each has enough capacity to get the job done. 7mm Shooting Times Westerner. using our same techniques that we use to build our match grade center fire barrels! Is it that you all want the same bullet weight compared between the 300 PRC and the 338 Lapua? Looks like close to the 30 Boo-Boo too, for those who remember the great hours of this now obscure round ^^. Both rifles are zeroed at 200-yard zero. There is No PERFECT Gun ~ …there’s a Lot of Perfect GUNs. mybe if you pick the bullets with the best bc for the caliber that will keep everyone happy well most you can never keep everyone happy. 30 Nosler Trophy Grade. Shot 5 rounds to zero factory Hornady 212ELDX and then shot 5-3hot groups at 100 yards. Great article, a few good replies, and a lot of dumb ones. The Ultimate Guide to Tanning Wild Game Pelts and Hides. I bet Ryan can shoot better than most of you people in here! Carl is not angry, someone is fudging facts to create the illusion that one cartridge case has better performance than one of larger capacity ! magnum cartridges and bullets of similar weight. BUT it is not equal with the .30 Nosler in any category. As you can see from the chart below, it has better energy on target and drops less than the 338 Lapua Mag past 1,000 yards and it recoils a LOT less. 280 Ackley Improved. 300 PRC load not translating– -$750 . As a note, Bartlein arguably makes the BEST barrels available. Great question. The long range shooting community, in particular the military/tactical community has been chasing the great performance characteristics of high ballisitc coefficient 30 caliber projectiles as a great balance of aerodynamic performance, effect on target, and recoil. Its heavy recoil and muzzle blast relegate it to boutique status much like the .300-378 Weatherby Magnum. Now back to the 300 Norma Mag. Sep 18, 2017 #1 For long range. This article is pure bs. Heck, you would not believe the psych talks I have with myself (and the muzzle break lol) about paying for even a $1200-1500 scope. Go. Nosler Nosler, Inc. is an American manufacturing company based in Bend, Oregon, … Load development ($750/ea) for magnum calibers (excluding 6.5 PRC). This 28 Nosler is the hardest hitting Tikka we have built to date. I really couldnt see a benefit over the 28 from the 27 nosler? I like guns don’t care what cal they are. If I’m shooting a smaller bullet, give me a smaller rifle. Powders include Hodgdon, IMR Tony. Keep it up, hopefully see you at SHOT show next Jan…, Use best bc in each caliber AND Same bullet weight It’s not rocket science, Hi Ryan, appreciate the write-up. A similar example is 260 remington vs 6.5 creedmoor … the 260 has slightly better external ballistics but the 6.5 creedmoor is more ‘popular’ and has more factory ammo available … but for any shooter – particularly reloaders – they can get more out of their 260 then a 6.5 creed so don’t change. You reference 24″ MRAD barrel. Also, I have a 6.5x284 for Coues and looked at the 6.5 PRC. ADG = 101 gr. Or ELD 212. Todays rifles and ammo show what all these years of development have achieved. As I’ve noted above, I am not a fan of the 300 Norma. Now that more options are available I might go back and update this. I am pushing a 300 gr Berger Elite Hunter, G7 BC of 0.415, with 97.5 gr of RL-33 from a 26″ barrel, well below max pressure, averaging 2724 fps. I’ve been fallowing this thread pretty closely, as well as a few others. Take away sighters and the magnums start to hold their own or even take over. 162gr ELD-X @ 3377 FPS 300 yards 7.21 Sage left. By Ron Spomer. Thanks and although a Swarovski and night force fan went with the new German Zeiss. and if indeed the 30 PRC beats out the 338 in energy and drop at long distances. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nosler_proprietary_cartridges, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.300_Winchester_Magnum, Coyote Hunting - From 10 Yards to over 1,000 Yards. What will the 26″ expect to provide in MV? If cost is a concern Hornady match grade is around 38$ Hornady 300 Norma is 100$ and Hornady 338 match is around 96$ per 20, that is a huge difference, it won’t take many shots to add up to a new gun in the safe!!. Norma = 95 gr. Just noticed that Bergara is coming out with two 300PRCs in 2019. I just ask you this: If ultimate performance is all that matters (foregoing weight, size, and recoil), why stop at 300 Norma Mag? Major Boykin. What a joke. I’m curious how many of the commenters that are upset with your writing offered to supply you with ammunition? The 300 PRC, on the other hand, is a non-belted magnum that can push the same weight bullets slightly faster without reaching dangerous pressures. What you do know, is only what think you know. What in the hell am I missing here? If you can see a reason to chose the 6.5 Creedmoor over other similar calibers, then the 300 PRC is going to be a great step-up for you. Choose the best weapons, improve their shooting and increase their knowledge on their rights. I am researching a long range rifle for me and a couple friends, who want the same as I get so we can compare, and some fun competition. It may not be a real issue to have a belt on a cartridge, but it is definitely a perceived one that I don’t like. I’ve also found interest in the 6.5 PRC and the 300 PRC. This guy is right on, the three comparisons within the article are cherry picked to show what the author wants them to show . It is based on the non-belted .26 Nosler case (itself based on a cut-down Remington Ultra Mag case) necked-up to accept 7mm (.284") bullets. While a fast 300WM may run with a slow 30 Nosler the average barrel from each will be separated by 75-100fps. If you guys would like a different comparison, please let me know the bullet weights/brands you’d like to see and I’ll surely do it! Just some things I notice reading through your article and comments, Not that I will run out and buy any of them, I couldn’t hit anything with any of them past 300 yards the way my hands shake! How does the 300 PRC compare to the 300 RUM? So, why do I think that the 300 PRC is going to be a winner? I think that would make for some interesting comparisons. I think what would show the capabilities in a comparison between like-cartridges (even though they really aren’t) and a straight comparison with the same projectile, say the 212 ELD-M. 300 PRC vs, 300 WM vs. 300 RUM vs 300 Norma. So have a 7 RUM going on the market. 300 WIN MAG VS 300 PRC. Also as has been pointed out to go to the .338 Lapua/Norma rounds you need a bigger bolt face and bigger receiver diameter etc…using a standard mag. On a personal note, your calm and reasoned replies are a credit to you. Can't say that about the Nosler. Have a great night! JavaScript is disabled. is the primary target/sniper round and the .338 was regulated to being a payload round and not a primary target/sniper round. I know that the 7 RUM was a fad and the Christensen 7 RUM with the 1 in 10 twist only likes 145 Barnes TSX so it is a case of a great shooter but Ammo from custom folks at 125 a box. When the 300 Norma came out, I was outspoken about questioning whether it was smart for the military to adopt it for the ASR program. id it were possible. He was just showing a comparison to show that the little 300 prc isn’t that far behind the big boys. Modern long range bullet designs have much higher ballistic coefficients (their relative efficiency moving through the air) which often result in longer and sometimes heavier projectiles. The author selected the heaviest bullets offered by Nosler in each caliber, and the muzzle velocities are a reasonable average based on Nosler’s reloading manual. moondog. That would be like giving your Hyundai and Corvette the same size engine. Each has enough capacity to get the job done. Keep up the good work Mike. Lighter recoil means that a shooter, no matter how tough you are, can shoot more with less risk of flinching. I have a PTG Bomber action that I want to use for a build. However, modern cartridge and bullet design has come a long way. Your email address will not be published. Join our mailing list to receive the latest news and updates from our team. As planned, I looked at the magazine compatibility with the Remington 700 magnum action and these cartridges. Related products. Introduced in 2005, the Nosler cartridge brass line is ready to load. If this was ok with most people, the 6.5 Creedmoor wouldn’t have taken off like it has because the bigger version would clearly have better ballisitic performance. Latest. I appreciate the info your sharing. Was I right? no way … but if you don’t yet have a 30 cal magnum and want one … and ESPECIALLY if you are a reloader … this thing shows great promise and perhaps the potential to actually BE the best at what I deem to be the MOST important aspect – accuracy at very reasonable comparison of performance on all other points of comparison …. But the build time was too far so the 300 PRC in carbon and titanium fits my bull for an all around rifle from elk to Cape Buffalo. It may not display this or other websites correctly. Prairie Dogs, Mule Deer, 1600 pound Brown Bear, or Nailing a target out close to 2 miles ? The 300 Norma handily beats the 300 PRC on ballistic performance. The Ridgeback looks absolutely awesome. That comes at the cost of 5-8 grains of extra powder and the barrel wear that comes with that. Guys saying they can push a 215gr. Other then a magnum action, what do you see as the + or – of the 300 RUM? Silver $$ Contributor. The old 7mm Rem. Sep 18, 2017 #2 Both will exceed the abilities of most shooters at ELR . Honest question, what do you think we should we have compared for bullet weights? In a specially configured rifle, shooting long range, the PRC may have an advantage in being built to handle the long, heavy for caliber VLD bullets. I’m loving the 300 PRC. My 28" was 2950. I’ll happily do that. It also allows for smaller magazines and lighter ammunition. As an example, some in the tactical shooting community have started to adopt the 30 caliber bullet of the 300 Norma and use it in lieu of the larger and long-used 338 Lapua Mag. If this cartridge is as advertised, it will take off on its own merits. Manufactured with the traditional Nosler philosophy of uncompromising attention to detail, Nosler® cartridge brass is created to exact dimensional standards and tolerances, using quality materials for maximum accuracy and consistency potential while extending case life. Part# 10150 Box Count: 25 . The beltless case? Hornady = 97 gr. On Carl’s behalf, you used an optimum bullet in the PRC, compared to the sub-optimum in the Lapua, as someone pointed out. Also, the cartridge design is begging for the high ballistic coefficient bullets that will stick out longer due to their longer sleeker design. Keep the podcast going by the way! And When you get some spare time, write that book on map/compass navigation. 30 Nosler). The 30 Nosler has 4% more case capacity than the most voluminous 300WM case. To compare a 30 cal cartridge to a 33 cal cartridge for external ballistics purposes, use as close as possible BC bullets … if it isn’t possible or not feasible, then it is a ‘limiting’ factor of either one or the other and should be so noted. There, that’s your entire article. I came here looking to uderstand why the .300PRC might be chosen over its nearest competitors, and the article neatly answered that. In general, available factory loads should not be a factor as that will change over time … instead – use reloads to the same % of max pressure across all with the bullets selected as above …, Personally, I don’t think the 300 PRC will be to other cartridges what smokeless powder was to black powder (i.e. Here’s a nugget; What you don’t know, is what you don’t know. I’m glad to spend your money. Personalized, preferred crap that you think you know. Nice Job Ryan I’m a new fan of your pod casts and on the hunt for 300 prc info, I can read your data and decipher it without butt hurtness. Both cases were new unfired. life of the barrel for whatever particular cartridge being chambered. Interesting read and the 300 PRC interests me for similar reasons as the 6.5 Creedmoor. I own both those chamberings also. I’m ok with it and will add a few guns to the safe over time. Now, to be fair, I regularly warn against adopting the latest new “fad” cartridge. In the graph below, the solid lines are the ballistic path (drop) and the dashed lines are the energy. Really enjoyed the last episode from the ranch. Part# 10175 Box Count: 50 . What I can say is when I decide to chamber a barrel I know it is really no different than primers, powder, bullets, and brass. Introduced in 2005, the Nosler cartridge brass line is ready to load. I am using it as a base line along with other articles. In my experience, the 300 PRC is a perfect blend of size and performance. Build the perfect load has long been the motto of handloaders loyal to Nosler brand bullets–and was the sole reason we developed Nosler® cartridge brass. I did some bench comparisons of the two. It is also a much smaller cartridge so it’s easier to carry and the rifle can be smaller and lighter. My thinking is that not many people are going to buy a 338 Lapua and shoot ballistically inferior ammo through it. Brass life for the .26 Nosler should be longer than that of the 6.5-300, as the Nosler design lacks the belt of brass, and the case stretching and thinning associated with it. Performance will be pretty much the same. Like all 7mms, they can fire bullets as light as 100-grains and as heavy as 180-grains. The 30 Nosler is 99 and the 30-28 will be around 104. At the range, I shot Hornady TAP Precision 300 PRC 225gr ELD Match ammunition. What twist is your barrel? Could you eliberate a little more on the dangers of shooing the 300 norma mag at angles? At a mile I only need 16.2 mils and I stay supersonic to 1900yds. Hybrid OTM Tactical has a (G1).71, a(G7).364 so where’s the superiority ? I understand that there really is no way to compare the two using same bullet weights BUT I would like to see you do a comparison where both cartridges are at the top of their potential by using bullets with high B.C.’s being pushed at their best velocities. I agree Andrew. But, want a great balance of everything? I will agree that the 300 Win Mag is hard to beat all things considered but lets get a couple of things straight. While neither choice will be inexpensive to feed, there is something fun about having the fastest cartridge in its class, and both the .26 Nosler and 6.5-300 Weatherby Magnum are in the top tier. If I missed something earlier please forgive me, but where do you place the 300 RUM in this? An average 300 win mag will push 215s 2850-2950 with a 26" barrel usually on the lower end of that. The first rifle (we know of) in 300 PRC was the Barrett MRAD. Why not the 300 Creed, or 300 creedmoor. If not, then it will go the way of the DoDo. $1500 Barrel Break-in ($100/ea). If you are not reloading and plan on keeping a rifle with the same barrel for the next century get a WM and move on. The name sucks ” 300 PRC ” . So where did they grab an extra 3/10ths inch, COAL?? The smart design gets my vote every time because my prior precision machinist background seems to make me despise wasteful design. But I’ll stick with the 6.5 PRC for now. This was very interesting to us – the 338 Lapua was the king of long range tactical shooting and the 300 Norma took off as a lighter and faster bullet out of the same case. ★ 28 nosler vs 300 prc: Search: Academic disciplines Business Concepts Crime Culture Economy Education Energy Events Food and drink Geography Government Health Human behavior Humanities Knowledge Law Life Mind Objects Organizations People Philosophy Society Sports Universe World Arts Lists Glossaries. So should I go with the 300 PRC or 300 Norma? Fooey on 300PRC ! Hornady currently makes two loads in 300 PRC, a 225gr Match-grade offering and a 215gr Hunting load. 7mm-08 … Today, I have to give that nod to the .300 PRC. Part# 10188 Box Count: 25 . All shooting the same pills with their max charge in the same length barrel personally I’d say 26”. Custom Load development for Eric Anderson of Blue Mountain Precision. However, Ruger now offers a Ruger Precision Rifle in 300 PRC, Bergara offers 4 models of rifles in 300 PRC, and Christensen Arms and Cooper firearms also offer multiple models in 300 PRC. by Ryan Cleckner Sep 23, 2018 63 comments 4.5 (80), When the 300 PRC (Precision Rifle Cartridge) was launched by Hornady in the Fall of 2018, I claimed that it was “about to be the hottest new cartridge, especially in long range shooting and hunting circles… the world just doesn’t know it yet.”. loaded ammo they advertise the velocity at like 2723fps. 300 ultra mag wins. The 30 Nosler blows past the highly regarded 300 Winchester Magnum—eclipsing the round in all three testing categories. I can not tell you want you want in a rifle or cartridge. You’ll get same BC and same Weight so it will be all muzzle velocity impacting the ‘external’ ballistics. I made an Americanized 8mm x 68mm Schuler wildcat, using 375 Ruger virgin brass. Part# 11472 Box Count: 25 . They will be using the caliber to it’s fullest potential. Bergara | Bangers - Your Shooting Sports Source Mountain 2.0, 300 Win Mag, 24" Barrel, Gray Cerakote/Carbon Fiber, Hinged Floorplate, 3rd What’s Your Flavor ? Where does one obtain Hornady TAP Precision 300 PRC 225gr ELD Match? .28 with a 195 Berger vs. a .30 with a 215 Berger. BULLET: Length, Wt., Design, BC… CASE: Design affects the way the powder burns, velocity, range, and accuracy… POWDER: the Perfect amount and Burn Rate to match the case bullet, and barrel length… We have back yard experts throwing apples and oranges at each other… Hornady has an R&D team working long hours, day in and day out designing and testing each load with a specific Purpose. 300 Win Mag: Nosler = 95 gr. Note how the 300 PRC (red line) is in-between the 338 Lapua (green line) and the 300 Norma (blue line) in performance (and is slightly closer to the 300 Norma). Good Article Ryan! Hunting in Colorado at 8-9kft my 28 has 2100fps and 2000ft/lbs at 1000yards. Part# 10184 Box Count: 25 . only drawback I see initially is what factory rifles can accept this 3.7″ OAL of cartridge ? I took rough measurements of both the 300 Win Mag and the 30 Nosler with the very popular 215 Berger hybrid. I just do not need that large of a bullet. What comparison would you like to see? 28 Nosler. I have a Remington 700 action that has been milled to accept a 3.85″Wyatts mag box ,also my 300 Way Mark V action should be close as I think its 3.6″. Mine works through mil Mauser 98’s. Custom Load development for Eric Anderson of Blue Mountain Precision. There are guys getting faster but that is not the norm. Hornady . You are using an out of date browser. I used the best available at the time. I bet your Hyundai could outrun my Corvette when I have a couple flat tires. I'll agree with MTMuley that you're already in big boom status why not go for the 300 Ultra because according to reloading data the 30Nosler … It generates greater recoil than the 300WM. Green = 338 Lapua Mag Red = 300 PRC Blue = 300 Norma. Also, it is a convenient balance of performance and recoil in a short-action. If I was looking for long range rig, the decision for me would be between the .28 Nosler and the .300 PRC. Load development ($750/ea) for magnum calibers (excluding 6.5 PRC). By the way, the Seekins is not a custom but a factory produced rifle. Let go and grow! If you’re upset that we didn’t use different enough weights, what would have you preferred? But this was good because I have found that the case capacity of the … Description Reviews (0) Description. .300 PRC reloading data with 102 loads. For many (me included) this is worth having less than maximum performance out of a particular bullet. 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